Does make me wonder if there is a way to reverse the curse - and rocks was just so broken down because of his family and wanted to die. Seems pretty broken if there really is nothing to be done about it
Sidenote: Look at the panel with Stussy. There's a ghost from Perona's DF there. Hat-and-glasses guy (who I'm pretty sure is Gill Baster) was the previous wielder of it seemingly.
A true hero indeed. He couldn’t stand by seeing so many civilians die and he did not hesitate to threaten a superior to do what’s right and allow the survivors to board the ship.
I like to also think that Garp actually raised Dragon right, instilling within him a strong sense of morality and humane justice.
Ace for as much as he hated his father, he took a lot from Rodger looks. The same goes for Luffy not the hate part but young Garp looks so much like him it’s insane.
Also makes it funny that we are supposed to believe none of the Roger pirates would have been a bit more curious about Ace’s background. He’s virtually a clone of their captain and named after his sword 😂
Also, little detail, after they threw away their coats they swapped colour palette. Roger's coat is black, with a white shirt, while Garp's coat is white, with a black shirt
oh I fuckin love that. You could see that as Roger wearing the uniform of "evil" but having a pure heart, and Garp wearing the uniform of "law and order" but being an outsider to it underneath. Their insides don't match the perception of their outsides
I fucking LOVE that, even if it's not intentional (ie; it was just done to show stronger contrast between them with and without their jackets) it's a really cool detail to pick up on and think about
Dragon going from reluctantly following orders, shooting at civilians to shoving a gun in his superior’s face threatening to kill him, all to commandeer a ship to do the right thing. In the span of maybe 2 hrs. And he’s only 17. I have so much respect for that guy.
i feel like post GVI is gonna be reserved for mostly Harald reaction and what he do after that,and then we go back to Loki flashback, and the detail of other interaction will be saved for a later date for the character's Flashback
I think we ought to at least see Xebec's fate (since it's not clear at the end of this chapter), Roger seeing Shanks in that treasure chest and maybe the Garp scene I mentioned above in the next chapter before jumping back to the Elbaf stuff.
maybe we gonna see Dragon argue with Garp,but not shown the conversation and instead its the narrator talking,but iunno
also Bogard is still missing lmao, nowhere to be found after splitting from Garp after his call with Sengoku some chapter ago,so hopefully we know what the fuck Garp told him to do
Garp and Dragon's relationship is so interesting after this. I feel like Garp can 100% understand Dragon's position and why he decided to leave and become a revolutionary... but Garp himself was in a position where he could actually do something about it from the inside and didn't want to give that up. The two of them (and Luffy) are truly the champions of the people in this series.
Dragon became a Revo 22 years after GV. It was after Ohara.
Before that, Dragon was a pacifist with the freedom fighters.
And I think, like you, that Garp understood that decision. But it was hard for him to see his son become the Revo Leader. Hell of a danger to be labbeled as the number 1 WG ennemy. See what happened to Rocks... And Garp saw that.
100%. I do feel like this ties into Garp's desire to make Luffy and Ace into Marines as well. Or at the very least why he DID NOT want them to become Pirates. All the Pirates he knew (even if he respected them) ended up dying.
I don’t know the details for certain but in history revolutionaries all do tend to be quite young by modern standards. the American founding fathers were in their 20s and early 30s iirc.
edit; also the example I should have remembered is Joan of Arc who was even younger than Dragon carving her name in history.
Roger asking Garp to join his crew without hesitation - and to have their own descendants grow up as brothers, really lovely to see how much their respect for each other has passed on through generations and influenced the course of world history.
With how much he wanted Luffy and Ace to join, they would have been on the same ship as him. Like Koby and Helmeppo. Who have grown into immensely talented sailors.
I'm sure their fights after this were just brotherly brawls and not deadly duels. They are both playing their part. I bet Garp even rooted for Roger to finish his Journey just to spite the WG.
Maybe while Roger was in prison and told Garp about Ace, he also told Garp everything he told WB. Garp knows what's about to come that’s why he replies with “Not big enough” when he’s told Kaido and and Big Mom have teamed up to kill Luffy.
This whole incident is covered up by the World Government, yet they both were at the very center of it. Even if they respected each other despite being rivals before, this event must've created a bond between them. That regardless of their "little" fights over land and treasure as Pirate vs Marine there is very clearly a larger threat out there.
One thing I loved was Garb's response. He did reject the offer but not because he was against it, or didn't support Roger. He said no because he knew the evil's at the top of the WG were worth staying for, to make sure the Marines didn't go over to the dark side.
He is anti-WG at this point but knows he must stay to keep the Marines in order. He isn't anti-pirate, he just has to be in his position. He's shackled by responsibility because he'd rather sacrifice his beliefs for the greater good instead of join Roger.
His end is an absolute tragedy: turned into a monster, losing control of his body and only able to communicate through the Voice of All Things. Having already put down his father and clan and thinking he has killed his wife and children thereby ending his bloodline. His tears did not stop until the very end
He definitely does. He probably did not even see Kuma since it was so chaotic and happened so fast. Even if he did, Xebec wouldn't know Kuma had the paw paw fruit to pop people away.
Literally one of the strongest at the time. Makes Imu that much crazier to be able to reduce Rocks to this. It's no wonder Garp and Roger both decide to lay low instead of fighting back directly.
I think the most terrifying part of Domi Reversi is how it even seems to take over a person's will since Rock's is still using his conqueror's haki.
And also, the "Voice of all Things" seems like a completely unrelated power since even though he's fighting Roger and Garp with his full strength, he's simultaneously begging them to kill him through it and sharing how he actually feels.
My theory is similar to Big Mom fruit there is a counter. I believe you have to be pure of heart to resist being transformed. Most everyone who has transformed I feel are parts both good and bad. People like Luffy I feel can resist (Possibly Roger and Garp)
Still time i guess. Next chapter could have him drop some lore-dump to Roger and Garp moments before dying i guess? Not sure if he insta dies from this move, or he gets a moment as normal before fading
I can't get over the fact that the pineapple head's full name is Polo Marco.
I guess this means he grew up on a ship, maybe inherited the First Division leader position from dad?
Poor garp, everyone calls him the hero of the marines for his actions on GV, and he can’t tell anyone of the great evil at the top of the world that he fought against
Honestly that one line completely changes garp’s character. No wonder he wanted ace and luffy to join the marines, he knows the kind of evil out there killing pirates
Also makes it kind of tragic when you read between the lines of what they were saying and what we now know they couldn’t say back then
Luffy - I want to be a pirate (so I can be free)
Garp - I wanted you to be a marine (because you can’t be free if you’re a pirate, there is a monster running the world, and I can only protect you from it if you’re a marine)
I think something that everyone seems to be overlooking .. is that Garp and Roger tried to save Xebec and wanted to free him.
These guys were all legendary rivals, but still didnt want to see each other go out the way Xebec did.
Roger shed tears for Xebec
Garp tried to comfort him in his final moments in that they could feel his pain/frustration.
This make's me hate Imu even more. Xebec deserved better than this and even his greatest rivals knew it.
Garp has his own sense of justice (which I think leaked on to Dragon, hence his actions in GV), which is to protect people. He truly is a hero at heart; no hero would be able to turn a blind eye to someone who desperately wants to be killed by them.
After this it's clear why Roger left Ace in the hands of Garp. He knew how strong he was and how he was willing to put on the line when it was time to fight.
RIP Rocks! You come and stole the show since you appeared...
And that his sense of justice was so great that he'd go against the world government if the situation called for it, even going so far as to team up with Roger here, especially if it meant protecting Marines.
I wonder about the present as there are so many questions that come to mind. If Garp does indeed tell Blackbeard about what happened, and that his father was indeed turned into a monster(Eris already probably did) and was asking for death, will Blackbeard let him go? Even at the expense of his dream for Pirate Island? Blackbeard should know that's not going to happen since they know he's Davy Clan now(Saturn let that slip to Devon on Egghead)
Would Garp potentially team up with Blackbeard after what he's done? Is Garp there at the Holy Land right now with Blackbeard?
Would he let Garp do what he wanted and roam free(maybe to go see and team up with Dragon)?
With the emphasis Oda put on these last attacks leaving Rocks, Roger and Garp all out of commission, and Rayleigh and Gaban heading back to the island, it seems we're getting a confrontation between those two and Garling + someone else (Sommers and the rest of the Holy Knights?).
What really got to me was that even though Roger and Rocks were rivals, Roger still had to wipe away his own tears looking at rocks cry. Like damn you know Roger wanted to beat him but not like this man. RIP to the GOAT 🫡
this chapter fully 100% confirms that garp has conquerors for all the people that kept saying it wasnt fully confirmed, but ofcourse it has always been obvious he had it
This adds context to Garp's urging of Ace and Luffy to join the Marines instead of being pirates.
It wasn't because "The Marines are good and Pirates are bad", it was because "If you're marines, I can protect you from the REAL monsters that I KNOW exist out there".
Crazy how much has gone down in this flashback and we still don’t know what happened to Harold, which was the point of Loki telling this story. Even crazier to remember that Elbaph is currently on fire and Imu is on the prowl again.
feels like no more God Valley stuff, now its time to either see Loki killing Harald, or its gonna be extremely brief as it's basically the very same thing that happened to Rocks, sooooo we are so close to get back to current timeline!
What a battle. Absolutely loved the Roger Garp team up and them talking about conqueror's coating.
RIP Rocks, I will miss him.
Polo Graham, Oda is hilarious.
Holy shit Dragon tho. He's 17 years old and threatening to shoot his superior and execute the other Marines even if it means he'll be killed or imprisoned himself. To save innocent people. Dragon stocks rising dramatically.
My dude is staying on to shield ordinary marines who just want to do good and protect people from the evil and corruption of the WG and nephews have the gall to call him a slaver smh
Damn it even brought Roger to tears to see Rocks like this. Really shows there was a certain level of respect. You wouldn't wish this predicament on your worst enemies...
497
u/O-xy-moron 16h ago
That panel of Rocks crying, damn. Poor man really died thinking he killed his family...